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When Clayton and Natali Morris met for the first time, millions of people were watching.
Clayton was one of the hosts of a popular morning TV show, and Natali was one of his guests. “She walked onto the set, and she just knocked my socks off,” Clayton remembers. “I was instantly dumbfounded by her, and I think I spoke really quickly through the whole segment.”
“I saved the tape,” says Natali, who was then an editor at a news website and a co-host of an influential technology podcast. “I remember looking at Clayton like, I’m supposed to know you, but I don’t know how. It’s amazing that we have that moment on film.” (I call that feeling soul recognition.)
Just a few years later, another hugely important moment for Clayton and Natali would also happen live on air, in front of millions of people—including me. And this time, it involved the decision to have a child.
Clayton and Natali had not yet talked about getting married when Natali first got pregnant. “It was a surprise for both of us,” she says.
“I was thirty-one but I still remember thinking that I was too young for this. I worked a lot, and my career was a big part of my identity.
Having a child felt like going through the looking glass.”
They decided to have the baby, and in time their lovely son Miles was born. But Natali’s mixed feelings during the pregnancy filled her with guilt. “Early on, Miles needed some medical treatment, and I wondered if the problem had been caused by trauma in the womb,”
she says. “Because we weren’t married, and because I’d been unsure, the pregnancy felt traumatic to me, and that made me feel even more guilt.”
Years later, when Natali and I crossed paths, I did a reading for her in which the Other Side showed me the image of a doctor’s office.
“Why are they telling me all this stuff about a doctor?” I asked her.
Natali then described her ambivalence and the guilt she felt over it.
“That’s why the Other Side pointed it out,” I said, “because the guilt is a toxic thought you need to get rid of. Your son came to heal you, to make you a family, to point you in the right direction. So get rid of the guilt you are carrying. Just let it all go.”
Natali and Clayton got married in city hall in Manhattan three months after Miles was born. “Since I worked the weekend shift, I was home with him a lot in the early months,” Clayton says. “We sort of fell into these roles of mother and father, but we started to realize that we were pretty good at them. We were pretty good parents.”
Eventually, they agreed to have another child, and beautiful Ava came along.
“After that,” Natali says, “the feeling I had was, We’re done.”
But Clayton wasn’t so sure.
“We both agreed to stop at two, and we agreed that we were this great little unit of four people, and that was enough, but then I sort of started pushing for a fifth member,” Clayton says. Natali, too, had been thinking about it, but “my honest feeling was that I really did not want to have another child,” she says. “The pregnancies were tough, and I wanted to go back to work, and so I was really struggling with it. I was very, very conflicted. After a while I had to tell Clayton to stop asking me about it.”
This is kind of where I entered the picture.
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When Clayton was young and growing up in Spring Township, Pennsylvania, he had an innate curiosity about the secrets of the universe.
“As a kid, I ran around in a Ghostbusters costume trying to find ghosts everywhere,” he says. “Later on, I taped this little show about the paranormal and put the episodes up on YouTube. As I got older, I built up these walls with stress and anxiety about life, and I stopped
trying to tap into this space, this curiosity. But I was always open to it.”
Natali, a California native, was raised a Jehovah’s Witness but left the faith when she was twenty. “I hadn’t found any set of beliefs that really worked for me,” she says. It was only after she started reading books about the afterlife and consciousness that she began to form a true worldview. “It was like everything I believed about life up to that point had been completely wrong!” she says. “Those books really informed the way I think about my life.”
Together she and Clayton explored spirituality by reading more books, studying meditation, and just “trying not to limit our ability to connect with the world vibrationally.”
It was that desire for more connections, more openness, that brought Clayton and Natali to my book The Light Between Us. “As soon as we finished the book, we both said, ‘Oh, she should be on the show!’ ” Natali remembers. But before Clayton could suggest it to anyone, his producer sent out an email to all the show’s hosts the very next day: “So who wants to interview this psychic medium Laura Lynne Jackson?” the email read.
“I’ll do it,” Clayton quickly wrote back.
The day of the taping, I arrived at the show’s studio in Rockefeller Center. Just before airtime, I settled onto a sofa across from Clayton on the stage. Natali wanted to be on set for the interview, so she stood behind the cameras, listening intently. Both Clayton and Natali were looking for—hoping for—the very same thing: some kind of sign about having a third child.
When we started taping, Clayton and I talked about the book for a while, but the Other Side had a different game plan. Someone came through very forcefully, and their message was very clear.
“Okay, I’m going to start reading for you,” I told Clayton. “You have two children now, right?”
Clayton said that he did.
“Okay, well, I see a third light waiting for you.”
Behind the cameras, Natali burst into tears.
“I’d been so scared and so resistant, but as soon as Laura Lynne said those words, it didn’t feel scary anymore,” she says. “I was standing there laughing and crying because I knew that was what she would say.”
But there was more. The being pushing through from the Other Side was Clayton’s grandmother, Alma. She gave me her name to give to Clayton as an affirmation, and she also showed me something about a new pair of boots. It was like she was poking fun at Natali about them.
“Laura asked Clayton if I’d just bought boots, and of course I was wearing a new pair of knee-high black boots I’d just bought,” Natali says. “But I knew Clayton would point out that they were very similar to these other black boots I already had, so I was trying to hide the shopping bag from him. And then Alma came through and talked about them.”
More important, Alma showed me the fear and uncertainty that both Clayton and Natali were feeling.
“She is here and she is saying you’re scared, you think you can’t run your family or your careers with another child, but it’s going to be great, so just do it, just have the third child,” I told them. “If you choose to do it, it will be beautiful. But don’t not do it because of fear.”
Just four weeks later, Natali was pregnant again.
“This time, I made myself enjoy the pregnancy in a way I hadn’t before, because I trusted in what was happening,” she says. “I had faith in our decision. I let go of all the fear and uncertainty. And it was our third child who fully healed me. This persistent little soul came along and healed me.”
Their third child—a glorious little girl—was born. But neither Natali nor Clayton could settle on a name. Clayton’s co-hosts were set to announce the birth live on air, but with just a few minutes to go before the broadcast, the couple still hadn’t picked out a name.
“I was in the lobby of the hospital, about to go up and see Natali, and I just stood there with my cup of Starbucks and took a deep
breath and waited for a lightning bolt,” Clayton says. “And then one hit me.”
Upstairs, in her hospital room, Natali also had a name pop in her head. “I was having breakfast and I just came up with it and it felt right,” she says. “And then Clayton burst in and said, ‘I know her name.’ ”
He told her a name. She told him a name. It was the same name.
“So with just a few minutes to go I texted the name to my producer, and then they went on the air and announced the birth,”
Clayton says.
That’s how the world was introduced to Eve Morris.
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Since Eve’s birth, Clayton and Natali have both been even more open to signs from the Other Side. Recently, Clayton was struggling with the decision to stay at his TV job or leave to start his own real estate investment business. “I’ve always felt that my spirit animal is a bear, because I see bears a lot, and every time I see one, something amazing happens,” he says. “You know, I’d see a bear and I’d have a great deal happen within an hour.”
The day he finally decided to leave the show, he called in to work to share his decision with his producers. “And within moments of the call—moments—I was in my car and this enormous black bear just walked right in front of me on the street,” Clayton says. “I just stared and watched him go. It was the universe validating that the choice I had just made was on my highest path.”
Today Clayton and Natali are living truly beautiful and authentic lives together. Now that they have navigated and mastered their own fear and uncertainty, they are both true light workers.
They didn’t need me to tell them a third child was on the way—all they needed was to trust in what they already felt inside. They needed to recognize which choice was the path of fear and which choice was the path of love. In the end, every choice we ever make
while here on earth comes down to choosing a path of fear or love. It is our job to recognize the difference—and choose the path of love.
That is always our highest path.
“We let go of fear and allowed what was supposed to happen to happen, and when we did it changed everything—our finances, our family dynamic, our future,” says Natali. “It’s about trusting the signs and trusting what the universe is trying to tell you.
“We make things happen when we realize we have the power to make them happen,” she adds. “We can all create magic in this world, we just have to believe that we can.”