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courts--our respondents emphasized the many other relevant audiences for leg- islative history.
FIGuRE 7
Empirical Survey of 137 Congressional Staffers 2011-2012:
Legislative Drafters' Perceptions of the Purposes of Legislative History
Shape the Way Agencies Interpret Deliberate Ambiguities
Facilitate the Political Deal
Shape the Way Ind ividuas or Courts Interpret Contested leris
Indicate a Disagreement over the Meaning of a Particular Term or Provision
Indicate a Decision to Leave a Deliberate Ambiguity in the Statute Communications with Stakeholders*
Institutional Memory/Education*
Z
Repository for Details*0.0 0.1 0.2 0.3 0.4 0.5 0.6 0.7 0.8 0.9
Fraction of Respondents Source: Q60.
* Comments raised by respondents.
231. Accord Brudney, supra note 221, at 55-56 (noting that committee reports are di- rected at members of Congress and their staffs, regulated entities, agencies, and courts).
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1. Legislative history as a tool for congressional oversight of agencies
First and foremost, our respondents singled out agencies as a key audience for legislative history. Of our respondents, 94% told us that the purpose of leg- islative history is to shape the way that agencies interpret statutes.232 Similarly, in response to another question in a different part of the survey about what, if any, strategies drafters employ to influence interpretation of statutory ambigui- ties after enactment, 21% told us that they use legislative history to influence agency implementation in this manner.233 Indeed, our respondents often con- flated what most scholars would call traditional legislative "oversight" mecha- nisms, such as letters to agencies, with the use of legislative history. They of- fered the following types of explanations: "We use everything from floor statements to letters to the agency-members know how to communicate with agencies and make their policy preferences known"; "make extensive com- ments on regs, have hearings, write committee reports"; or "influence the agen- cy either with letters to the agency, a lot of legislative history when the bill is being passed, or calls to agencies."2 34
2. Legislative history as intracongressional communication
A second important audience for legislative history is other members and staffers. This form of communication, however, seems to take many forms of differing utility. For example, 92% of respondents told us that legislative histo- ry is often used to facilitate a political deal23 5 or to assure other members that the bill means what they want it to mean. This type of legislative history may be less reliable than others. As one respondent stated, "you have a colloquy to get a member off the fence, reassure the member it means what they think it means. People will say anything at that point and not worry about the interpre- tive consequences to get the vote."236
But 10% of our respondents also volunteered that legislative history is used more sincerely by staffers and members to explain, in layman's terms, what the bill does. There, it serves as a simplifying and educational tool. As one Senate staffer put it, "If something comes to you [from the House], first thing you do is look at the House legislative history."237 Another emphasized:
Members don't read text. Most committee staff don't read text. Everyone else is working off [the section-by-section] summaries [in the legislative history].
232. Q60f.
233. Q57.
234. Id.
235. Q60e.
236. Q63.
237. Q59.
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In a world of Justice Scalia where everyone works off text, the legislative his- tory is really important, too. The very best members don't even read the text, they all just read summaries.2 3 8
Similarly, these respondents emphasized that legislative history plays an important institutional memory role when staffers amend older legislation or draft legislation similar to earlier laws, as they often do. Legislative history, we were told, is an essential way for staffers to learn about previous related legisla- tive efforts, particularly given the high rate of turnover among congressional staff and also the relative youth and inexperience of many drafters. To quote two respondents: "[It's] one of the things that worried me most about high turnover of staff. We need the history to know how to understand the past";239 and "If you are reauthorizing a progam, it's useful to look back at the old leg-
islative history to get a sense of it."' 4 °
3. Legislative history as political communication with the public Third, 11% of our respondents volunteered that legislative history is some- times used as a means of communicating to constituents or important interest groups.24 1 This use of legislative history takes at least two different forms, both to include "somethin we couldn't get in the statute" in order "to make key stakeholders happy,'T42 and also "it's the only opportunity that members of Congress have to lobby the various interested parties external to Congress- you are setting up your reelection platform each time you make a floor speech";
"They are creating a record for themselves, it's not just for legislation." This type of legislative history was viewed to be less reliable as evidence of the con- gressional deal or statutory meaning because it is essentially "political" or
"campaign speech," as several respondents put it.244
4. Legislative history as a vehicle for details that are inappropriate for statutory text
Fourth, 6% of our respondents volunteered that legislative history is a cru- cial repository for legislative details that could not-or more interestingly, should not-be included in the statutory text. Some of this story is the conven-
238. Q83.
239. Q59.
240. Id.
241. Q60.
242. Id.
243. Id.
244. Id. These findings comport with some recent scholarship about how Congress communicates. See Boudreau et al., supra note 98, at 970; Nourse, supra note 98, at 1131- 34.
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tional one: the political difficulties of reaching compromise prevent the resolu- tion of all statutory questions. But another aspect of this story seems new:
namely, twenty-one different respondents (15%) volunteered multiple times throughout the survey (in response to this question and elsewhere) that there is a level of important legislation-related detail that is simply inappropriate for statutory text. In these situations, we were told, it is not the case that drafters do not know what details they wish to legislate, and it is not the case that politics prevents them from agreeing on those details. Nor is it always the case that drafters want the agency or courts to fill in the details.
Rather, in these situations, decisions to omit details from enacted text, our respondents told us, are motivated by a perception of what modem statutory language "should look like" and, relatedly, how much detail statutory text is supposed to have. For example, they told us that legislative history is often necessary "to clarify and signal intent in areas where legislative drafting is ob- tuse. Often the way you have to draft, it becomes hard to indicate the goal of the provision";2 4 5 or "what you can't write in the statute you put into the re- port-things like little examples of this is what we mean";2 4 6 or "the legislative history also puts meat on the bones. You can't be too prescriptive in legislation;
it's a storage place for things that would make legislation too bulky."2 47 In oth- er words, the textualists' ideal-a statute that contains all of the relevant deals and details-is not a goal that our respondents shared or even thought appropri- ate.
Understanding that at least some legislative history plays this role of in- cluding the details of which Congress is aware but does not think belong in statutory language suggests that legislative history is even more integral to the drafting process than even its proponents acknowledge. Moreover, like the oth- er factors already discussed, our respondents emphasized this role for legisla- tive history without mentioning or evincing any concern about how the statutes would be interpreted on the back end by courts. As in the case of our other re- lated findings, this one does not bode well for textualists' arguments that their approach will change drafting behavior.