Bull trout and pompano

230 FOREST AND STREAM. [April

20,1882.

THE AMERICAN FISHCULTURAL ASSO- CIATION.

PROCEEDINGS ELEVENTH ANNUAL

MT5ETING.

THE ^President

^{calledon Col.}

^{Mc Donald}

^{to state}

^what

had

been doneinthe

way

of retardingshad eggs witha

view

to transportal, ion across the ocean.

Col.

McDonald— The

results ofthe experiments

have shown

that,retardationcannot becarried

beyond

sixdays, in the case ofshad eggs. In connection withProf.

Ryder

I

undertookto retard

them by

keepiug

them

at aconstanttem- perature,butit

was

lateinthe seasonandthewater

was up

to 75deg.

We

foundthatat60deg.

we

couldsecure a bet- terdevelopment in

from

_seventoeight davs.but

when

the temperature

was

below that figurethe development

was

abnormal,and the result

was

onlya period of eight days, not

enough

totake

them

across.

Eggs had

been taken

from

thefishatatemperatureof 75deg.and then keptinwaterat atemperatureoffiOdeg.forsevenandeight days,and healthy fishhatched.

When

keptfor a longerperiod,"orat alower temperature,thefishwereinvariablyunhealthy. It

had

been proved by experiment, that eggs kept inwetflannelsina,

damp

atmosphereatatemperature of60deg. for forty-three hours could be successfullyhatched. The'problemof suc- cessfulhatching whilethee'ggswere en route has

now

been solved

by

theuse of closed hatchingapparatus. Thiscon- sistssimplyofajar ofaboutfivequarts capacity,with

two

tubes leading intoit.

One

of these, atthe bottom, fur- nishesaconstantsupplyof fresh water,andthe other,atthe top, carries offthe

impure

water.

As

thiswaterisforced into

and

carried out of the jarunderpressure,andasthe 75,000 eggs

which

the jar

would

containhein a solidmassat the,bottom,themotionofa train or rolling ofavessel

would

not: affect the spawn. If

we

cannot retard the hatcbinsr untilreachingtheotherside

we

mightatleastdelayitso far thatthefish

would

reachthere beforerequiring food. This closed apparatus has an advantage overthe"open onesfor oceantravel,inthe factthat theeggsare not displaced

by

motionas inthe closedjars,the rolling of a ship

would

not affecttheeggsintheleast;they

would

lieas quietly ason a labratorytable. All that

we would

needisawatersupply, or a

means

ofsecuring puritytothewater

by

circulation

With

thisapparatusshad

spawn

mightbe carried to

Europe

as safelyandsuccessfully astheyare

now

transportedtothe riversof California,Colorado

and

Texas.

The

onlyquestion that a practical culturistis

now

requiredtoanswer is as to the ability to keep a supply of pure water tofeed these closed jarswhilea vessel

was

en route. Ithasbeen

known

to flshculturists foryearsthattheeggsof the

mlmonidm

could be transported outof thewaterwithout; injury,but not un-

tilveryrecently that the

same

thing could'bedone with theeggsofthe shad, This discovery

was

the result ofauac- cident. I hailbeen thinkingoftransportingshad eggsfor

some

time,

and

had constructed an apparatus forearn,in^

400,000inaman's hand,

when we

were suddenlycalled

upon

touseit.

The

Pish

Commission had

alot,ofeggsinwater

on

boardofasteam launch onthe

wav from

the

spawning

grounds onthe

Potomac

to thehatcheryinthe

Navy

Tarrl I filled

my box and

took itin

my hand

toWashington,

where

theyhatchedafterbeingfifteenhoursout,ofwater

and

provedtobe a very stronglot offish. Thisaccidentaldis- covery hasresulted inagreatsavingin theexpense ofartifi- cialpropagation,

and

has

made

possible theestabUshmentof acentral hatching station, at

which

the

Government

will hereafterhatchall theimpregnated

spawn

takeninthePo-

tomac

and

Susquehanna

rivers.

Men

willhave buckets and take the eggsfromthegroundstothehatcheryinthe

armory

atWashington.

The President — ^Who

inventedthisapparatus?

Col.

McDonald —

It

was

not a

new

invention. It

was

the

same

system used in transporting salmon eggs onflannel trays,butithad not beentriedwithshad,andithas generally beenbelieved thatshad eggs are too delicate to transport in thisway.

The President—What

hasheen donein thehatchingof cod eggs?

Col.

McDonald — The

eggsof the cod,Spanish mackerel, seamackerel,bonita,

and

other fish

whose

eggsfloatonthe water,cannot behatched in the closed apparatus usedfor propagating shadeggs. Just

how

tohatch

them

while being transportedis aquestion that the Fish.

Commission

is

now

tryingtosolve.

The

troubleisthat theeggsare sobuoyant thattheywillfollow the current and pile

up

against" the screens and clog them.

A

series ofexperimentsisbeing-

made

withafunnel-shaped apparatus whichisfedfromthe bottom with puresaltwater.

To

carryofftheimpure water asyphonisused,the

arm

insertedintheupperportion of the apparatus being long

enough

toreach belowthe

mass

offloat- ingeggs.

The

experimentshave provedpartially successful,

andit isexpected that they can be

made

whollyso.

The

transportation of theeggs ofthe cod

from

this city tothe

Washington

hatching-housesisa problem

which

stillawaits solution.

An

attempt

was made

last fall bytheuseof her- metically sealedjars.

The

eggs were taken attheFulton

Market

slipand impregnated, andtheirdevelopmentretarded

by

placing

them

inwaterata temperatureof 34deg. Inat- temptingtohatch

them

^artificialseawater

was

used,andthe failureoftheattempt,itisthought,

was

dueto thatfact.

Mil.

Blackford — The

possibilitiesofcod hatchingatFultou

Market

aresimply immense. IwrotetoProf.Baird, theV, S.

Fish Commissioner,thiswinter,

and

offered,onbehalf of the Fulton

Market

Fishmongers'Association, theuseof the ripe cod broughtaliveinthe wells ofthefishing-smacks,

and

of- fered to give allassistance possible. Prof. Bairdsent

two

expertsandProf.Ryder,

who

wishedto studytheirembry- ology.

The

first lotofeggssentontrays

and

in kettles

from

the.marketto

Washington was

afailure.

The

secondship-

ment went

in glass fruit-jars half full ofeggsandfilledwith saltwater,andarrived safely,

which

provesthattheycan b»

sent that distance.

Whatever

failure occurred afterward

was

duetobadwater. Ihave suggestedtoProf.Bairdthat nextfallthesteamer Fish

Hawk,

with its appliances for hatching,be sent here,

and

offered,ifthis

was

done, to fur- nish100,000,000eggsper

diem

forhatchingpurposes. This couldeasilybedone, as a largecodwillstrip9,000,000good eggs. This

method

will save the expenseofsendingouta specialsteamertocatchfish

with

ripe eggs,

and

willsavea greatwasteofbothfishandeggs.

The

following gentlemen were elected

members

oftheas- sociation: Charles

W.

Smiley, Smithsonian Institution, Washington, D.C.;Lieut.

Henry

B, Mansfield,UnitedStates

Navy;

Prof.Alfred Mayer. StevensInstitute ofTechnology,

Hoboken,

N.J.;Col.

M. McDonald,

Fish Commissioner of Virginia;

W.

L. Gilbert,Plymouth, Mass.; H.P. Schuyler, Troy, N. Y,;Erastus Corning, Albany,1ST.Y.;

John

T.'

Ag-

new, Charles Banks,

and Benjamin Wood, New York

city.

A

recesstakenuntU 2P.

M,

Upon

again assembling

an

election of officers for the following year

was

then declaredin order, the first being that of president.

Mr. Miller

nominated Mr. George Shepard

Page

for President.

No

other

name was

proposedand he

was

balloted for

and

elected.

Mr. Blackford

recountedthe services of Mr.

Page

to fisbeultme andstated thatit

was from

hissuggestion thatthe UnitedStates

Commission

on Fish andFisherieshud sprung, andother facts

which

aremattersof record.

Mr Mather

then

named

Mr.

James Benkard

forVice- President,andhis election followed.

Mr. Page

alludedtothe fact that theSouth Side Sports- men's Club, of

Long

Island, of

which

Mr.

Benkard

is President,

would

market four thousand

pounds

of brook troutthisyear,bringingthe

handsome sum

of $3,000.

He

mentionedthis because,it has been asserted that this fish cannot besuccessfully raised formarket, an error that the clubisslowlycorrecting.

Mr, Blackford named

Mr. Charles B. Evarts forTreas- urer. Mr.

Annin named

Mr.

E.G.

Blackford;

upon

ballot Mr. Blackford

was

electedand Mr. Evarts

moved

thatitbe

made

unanimous;carried.

Mr. Evarts named

EarnestPhillips forCorresponding Secretary;elected.

Mr. Blackford named James

Annin,Jr., forRecording Secretary;elected.

An

Executive Committee,

whose names

are given below,

was

thenelected.

The

officersof theAssociationfor 1382-3

now

are:

George Shepard

Page,

New

York,President.

James Benkard,

SouthSide Club, Vice-President.

Eugene

G.

Blackford, New

York,Treasurer.

Barnet

Phillips, Brooklyn, CorrespondingSecretary.

James Annin,

Jr.,Caledonia,N. Y.,Recording Secretary

Executive Committee.

Fred Mather, Forest and Stream,

(Chairman).

G.

Brown Goode,

SmithsonianInstitute,Washington, D.C.

Seth Weeks, Cony,

Pa.

Bent.

W. West,

Fulton Market,

New

York.

T.B.

Ferguson,

Washington, D.C.

Chas. B. Evarts, Windsor, Vt.

Dr. W.'M. Hudson,

Hartford,Conn.

[By

anoversight thefirstpaper,read

by

Mr.

McGovern, was

omitted

from

ourlast issue. It will be given in our nextissue.]

BULLTROUT AND POMPANO.

IN

^{your issue of}

^March

^{23 I find a noteon the"Bull}

Trout"of

Lake

Coeurd'Aline,Idaho, in

which

thestate- mentsaremade, onthe authority-of

Drum Major

Lattes, that this bull troutisa"charr;"that"it,isidenticalwiththecharr of the lakes ofScotlandand Ireland,and that it

was

first described

by

^Dr. Richardsonasthe

"hood

charr"(Seilmo hoodii).

Ihaveexamined specimensof this bulltrout sent

by

Capt.

BendiretotheNational

Museum.

Itisthe species

which we

call

Sah4in

usmalnw,the^''Dolly

Varden

trout,

,

"firatdescribed as ftrlmo

malma

by

Walbaum

in1792. Itisa "charr,"and not,a"trout,,''asthose

words

areusedinEngland, although not quite the

same

as the charrofScotland. Itisnotthe

"hood

charr" ofRichardson. Ihaveexamined Richardson's specimensinthe British

Museum. One

ofthesespecimens, consideredby Dr. Guntherthe type,isalake trout (Crixtiw- mcr nmaayenah),theothers are

common

brooktrout(Seilmli- v/iixfoiiU'iuilis).

The

Salvdinvs hoodii istherefore to be sup- pressed

from

ourlists.

The

large

"pompano"

referred toby correspondentsin the

same

issue belongs, as

you

suggest, to the

"A

friean

pompano,

"

or^'-permit" {Traclu/notuHgpreenm),aspeciesnotrareinsouth- ern Florida,andpossiblysimplytheadultformof theround

pompano

(T. <ftxMM$). If

anybody

everheardthe

pompano

called

"pompynose"

at

New

Orleans,it

would

beagratifica- tion tohave

him

speak up, or else for ever after holdhis peaceandletusdropthat atrocity

from

ourlistof

"common

names."

David

S.

Jordan.

Blooming-ton,Ind.

"J. R., Jr.,"

RISES TO EXPLAIN.

EtlUi/rForest

and

Stream:

When

Iwrotethearticle

"How

is

Your

Fishing Tackle?"

which

appearedin yourissue ofMarcn-80;Ibaillittleidea of getting

Ned

Buntfineinto

my

wool; had suchadreadful alternative been before

my

eyes,Idoubtif thearticle

had

ever seenthelight;and

now

let

me

tellwhy.

I

remember

thetime,longyears ago,

when Ned

Buntline

commenced

the publication of

"Ned

Buntline's

Own,"

in anoffice

on

Sprucestreet

—

I

was

a boythen,andwell doI

remember him

ashe appeared on thestreets in thosedays;

we

boys looked

up

to

him

asa perfecthero,one

who

cared forneither

man

norbeast

— who

dared do anything

—

andI can recall

how

anxiously

we

watched foreach

number

of hispaperasit

was

issued,

and how

eagerly

wo

devouredhis tough yarns with the keenest relish;but

woe

to

me

if

my

good father found in my- pocket a copyofthe aforesaid paper. He, atrue blue Presbyterian,could nottolerate that kindof literature

—

^{I could. InlateryearsI}have heardter- rible stories aboutNed, with rifle in hand and firein his eye, chasing

Alvah Dunning

around the Raquette

Lake

region,and againof

Alvah

chasingNed. Bothalive atlast accounts,however.

With

allthis inmind, well

might

Idreadthethoughtof crossingswords with our

worthy

friend;butasithappens tobe only pensthatare crossedthis timeIguesstheaffair willnot

hang

crape,on very

many

doors.

My

article

was made up from

actual experienceeither of myself, or of

some

others of

my

fishermen friends. * * *

One

ofthekeenestfishers Ievertraveled with,

was

oneof themostcareless

men

withhis tackle. I

had him

in

mind when

Iwroteof thetangledmessofrustyhooks,etc.

When we went

totheSaranacRegion he had hisfishing tackle inalargetinbox.

On

ourarrivalatMartin's thebox

was

opened

and

he beguntogetout arigtogotrollingwith,

and

ittookmostofanafternoonto get things into decent shape,andthenit

was

amiserableapologyforanoutfit;

and

heisnot theonly oneofthekindthatI"couldname.

The

flybook alludedto

was

one

made

for the purpose, withleavesof

jwchment

alternatingwith leaves of cloth into

which

theflieswere hooked,

and when

opened the col- lection offlieswerethe the

most

forlorn

my

eyes everlit

upon, Scarcely a perfect one left

—

the moths

had

gone throughthe.wholebusiness in a business-likeway.

Now,

inregard to the kingfish

which

were"creditedto

"Old

ReliableRod." Inthewatersof

New York Bay

Ihave takenatvarioustimesseveral fish that have always been|

called,

by

those thatpretendto

know,

"kingfish." I

have

alsobought

them from

fishdealers,

and

theygave

them

the

same

name.

The

fishinshape

somewhat

resembled atrout, andinlength

was from

ten to fifteen inches;color, if

my memory

doesnotfailme, darkyellowish brown, with

some

little

marking

onthesides. ThoseIhave taken have always been on weakfish grounds. Webster's dictionary gives an engravingoftheSouthern"kingfish oropah"; this is

NOT

thefish Ireferredto.

Ithank

Ned

Buntlineforthekindly

manner

in

which

he has overhauled

my

article;it

shows

thatheis in search of

light;hope he got some. J.R,,jr.

Trout

in

the Adiuondacks.—

Enclosedfind aslipfrom theChateaugay Record of

March

24,1882.

The

statement is wholly true, and

much more

might be addedtoit,for while ona flyingtrip tothe lake (Upper Chateaugay) one

day

last

week

I

saw

fivesalmontrout, the smallest weiging sixpounds,andthe largest eight

and

one-quarterpounds,ah takenfrom oneholethroughthe ice.

Our

"shad,"orwhite fish,(adeliciousfishbytheway)arebeing takenin the

same

way.

The

speckledtrout I

am

glad to sayare savingtheir strength for thefly. All thefishermen and'guides that_Ihave

come

incontactwithfromdifferent parts of theAdirondacks withinthe past sixmonths speakoflastseason as beingan

"off year,"butthat the "signs of the times,"and theextra- ordinary

way

in

which

thefishare

now

takingbaitindicate that the

coming

season will be oneofunusualsuccess in that direction.

The

slipfromtheRecordsays^{> '}'Asaresultof theeffortsof Messrs.

Humphrey

and

Boomhower, and

other gentlemen

who

have caused

many

thousands oflake

and

salmontrouttobe placedinthewatersof

Upper

Chateaugay Lake,thefishermenare

now

catchingwith sunkbait

many pounds

of asfine fishaswereevertaken

from

thosewaters,

and

one gentleman,

who

isgoodauthority, declares that the Chateaugay Lakes areto-dayas well"stocked with lake and salmon troutas

any body

ofwaterof thesize inthe State of

New

York." Ralph's, thepopular

summer

hotel, has been enlarged this lastwinterto threetimesitsformer capacity,

and many

of the old guestshave already engaged

rooms

there.

—

Jno.

The Connecticut River

has floweda

much

largerbody ofwaterthisseasonthanthespring of lastyear. Inconse- quencethereof thecatchofshadand alewives promisestobe firstrate. AlreadytheDouglass Brothers have caughtseveral bushels of

"whops"

and one shad, besides a considerable quantityof suckers, perch,and dace. In their pot,which theyset, close to the shore everyspring,they caught,last Saturday morning, a fine muscalonge, which weighed an ouncelessthan eight

pounds when"

takenfrom the water.

The

beauty

was

presented to Mr. E.

M.

Reed, VicePresi- dent of the

New

York,

New Haven

and HartfordRailroad.

Just

what

the effectwill be withthe shad becauseofthe closing

up

of theEnfielddam,four miles above this place, last

summer,

asregardstheirgoinganyfurtheruptheriver',

remainstobeseen.

We

thinkthat thefishwayissufficient, becausethe

dam

is solow,but others thinkdifferently.—

Lower Bunk.

Tennessee.—

Nashville, April 8. There were a great

many

jackfish inourmarketthismorning, varying in size from

two

totwenty pounds weight. Withinthelastfew days

we

havegentle

warm

rains,andthestreamsare

now

in excellent conditon forangling.

A

partyofgentlemenre- turned from

White Oak

lastFriday.

They

had unusually goodluckanda delightful trip, Fishin that, notedstream arenot onlyabundant, but large

and

of most delicious flavor.

Jim

Palmer, ColonelGriffith,

Hermann

Ruckholz and Jack Bentley are

making

grand preparations foran expeditiontoBuffalo.

When

"thatteam do start, thevare indefatigable,and dothingsupin the best,of style. 'Carp abouthere are reportedto bespawning;iftheyturn out as well asisdesired for them,

by

this timeatwelve

month

there willbemillions of

them

intheState.—J.D.H.

Mountain Trout

in

Southwest Virginia.—Under

the

shadow

of

White

Top,

Washington

Co,,Va., April1882.—

Ithas occurred to

me

that the closing sentence in

my

last note to the

Forest and Stream may

mislead

some

_enthu-

siastic fisherman,

who

might suppose from the simple statementoftheabundanceoftrout,andtheirignfiraace of thedangersofrodandfly,thatthe situation

was

adaptedto the use of the fly.

The

creekis

upon

anaveragescarce twentyfeetwide, anditsbanks arelined with laurel and rhododendron.

Though

I

am no

fishermanIshould imagine

itnextto impossible tocastafly there,andasamatterof fact, people fish withaline

from

arodfive feet,long,and catchwith almost anysort ofbait.

The

flab themselvesare speckledbeautiesindeed andingreatnumbers.

—

Denbigh.

A Spot for

Big

Bass.— A

fewmilessouthof

Wilming-

tonontheupper

Potomac

Riverisa rare spot forblackbass, namely, Chambersburg, Pa.

Rod

fisherman

camp

there duringthe

summer

andtake theminnumbers. Dr.Hoke,

now

of Philadelphia,formely of Chambersburg, speaksof the place as his choiceover all others, and will spend his vacationintentuponthe captureof bigfish.

Your

corres- pondentistoldthatboththe

minnow

andthe littletoad are fakingbaitsat this pointonthe Potomac, and has beenin- vited to join the "canvass party" thatwilltarry a

week

there.

—

Homo.

Tim Pond and the Seven Ponds.— We

understandthat several ofthegentlemen

who

wereat

Tim

Pond, Maine,last year,aregoingthere againthis

summer. The accommoda-

tions are tobeenlarged.

Maine. —

^Parties

who

desire

some

excellent spring fishing

would

dowell tovisitEnfield,Me. All particulars in rela- tion toit

may

be obtained

bv

addressing A.J. Darling, Enfield,

Me.—

'J.F.S.

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