PROF. KARLSON

approve •..

PROF. KARLSON:

But also that this Council not approve it until such action is taken. We can do that too.

PROF. ZUNT:

This was sent originally from President Ryan. I received it as co-secretary of the University Faculty Council. In order to determine what the IUPUI faculty opinion was concerning the document, the Executive Committee and I elected to send it to our standing Student Affairs Committee for discussion and recommendations to have that come back to you so that we could better direct our University Faculty Council elected representatives to reflect, in fact, what the IUPUI opinion is. They will be voting on this on April 28 on this campus.

VICE PRESIDENT BEPKO:

Were there discussions between the Task Force that was appointed by President Ryan and the Student Affairs Committee here about these 70 areas of concern?

PROF. MCATEER:

Not concerning our specific 70 points, no. A discussion did take place but not concerning those 70 points.

VICE PRESIDENT BEPKO:

And in that discussion there was no agreement reached on what would be the best way to use all the faculty energy that is poised and ready to be used to create a better document?

PROF. MCATEER:

No. A Task Force has been developed. I had a discussion with Dean Boaz concerning our charge by the Executive Committee.

PROF. MARKEL:

Did I understand you to say that the Task Force has been dissolved?

VICE PRESIDENT BEPKO:

If the Task Force has been dissolved, I don't know what that means exactly, but then the Task Force can't do any more work. Is that the problem?

PROF. BYRNE:

My understanding from Susan's remarks is that the University Faculty Council is to vote on this document at the next meeting. Picking up on Henry's comments, "One cannot respond to a document which one does not have," I might alternatively recommend to the University Faculty Council that the vote

be tabled until the Fall semester and in the interim that copies be distributed appropriately through the University so that the kind of input that you seek can be developed in an orderly fashion.

VICE PRESIDENT BEPKO:

We have a motion that has been made on the floor already. Ed, are you making another motion or a motion to amend?

PROF. BYRNE:

I was feeling my way to a substitute motion. Another procedural thing of an elaborate committee seemed rather awesome to me. I sawall kinds of changes in the highest level of administration that perhaps there might be some reasonability to this kind of delay.

VICE PRESIDENT BEPKO:

One thing that you said in your working toward a recommendation or motion was the word "table". If that is a motion, that takes precedence.

PROF. KARLSON:

He is not moving that this be tabled.

would recommend to the University Faculty Council that Council table this document. So, he is not moving that

He is saying that they the University Faculty this motion be tabled.

PROF. MCATEER:

Before I restate this, just let me mention that what we are attempting to do is work toward a vehicle for appropriate review. Let me restate the motion:

That the IUPUI Faculty Council ask the University Faculty Council to establish a committee to conduct a thorough review and revision of the Statement of Student Rights and Responsibilities (Revised Document). That the review committee have University-wide representation and include faculty, undergraduate, graduate and professional school students, deans of students or student affairs including representation of the graduate school and prof essional school s, and Uni versi ty legal counsel. The University Faculty Council may use an existing standing committee for this purpose so long as the committee takes into account the concerns of the aforementioned constituencies. That the document generated by this review committee be made available to the IUPUI Faculty Council for subsequent review.

PROF. SIDHU:

Henry, this item came up for discussion.

sent to the University Faculty Council for discussion.

to the IUPUI Faculty Council, that is what I would like

So, this item has been How this item has come to know.

PROF. ZUNT:

As secretary of your Council and co-secretary of the Univesity Faculty Council, I felt that this was something that affected all faculty and IUPUI should have an opportunity to have input into the University Faculty Council.

PROF. SIDHU:

Therefore, this item has to be discussed by this Faculty Council.

Is that correct?

VICE PRESIDENT BEPKO: We have a motion that has been made on the floor already. Ed, are you making another motion or a motion to amend?

PROF. BYRNE: I was feeling my way to a substitute motion. Another procedural thing of an elaborate committee seemed rather awesome to me. I sawall kinds of changes in the highest level of administration that perhaps there might be some reasonability to this kind of delay.

VICE PRESIDENT BEPKO: One thing that you said in your working toward a recommendation or motion was the word "table". If that is a motion, that takes precedence.

PROF. KARLSON: He is not moving that this be tabled.

would recommend to the University Faculty Council that Council table this document. So, he is not moving that

He is saying that they the University Faculty

this motion be tabled.

PROF. MCATEER: Before I restate this, just let me mention that what we are attempting to do is work toward a vehicle for appropriate review. Let me restate the motion:

That the IUPUI Faculty Council ask the University Faculty Council to establish a committee to conduct a thorough review and revision of the Statement of Student Rights and Responsibilities (Revised Document). That the review committee have University-wide representation and include faculty, undergraduate, graduate and professional school students, deans of students or student affairs including representation of the graduate school and professional schools, and University legal counsel. The University Faculty Council may use an existing standing committee for this purpose so long as the committee takes into account the concerns of the aforementioned constituencies. That the document generated by this review committee be made available to the IUPUI Faculty Council for subsequent review.

PROF. SIDHU: Henry, this item came up for discussion.

sent to the University Faculty Council for discussion.

to the IUPUI Faculty Council, that is what I would like

So, this item has been How this item has come

to know.

PROF. ZUNT: As secretary of your Council and co-secretary of the Univesity Faculty Council, I felt that this was something that affected all faculty and IUPUI should have an opportunity to have input into the University Faculty Council.

PROF. SIDHU: Therefore, this item has to be discussed by this Faculty Council.

Is that correct?

VICE PRESIDENT REPKO: The call for the question has already been made. Henry, there is someone who wants to offer an amendment. The question has already been called.

PROF. HARPER: It seems to be that we must first ask the University Faculty Council to disapprove the document as it is presently constituted before we propose how they can modify it. I would offer as an amendment that we add that

as

a statement to the motion.

VICE PRESIDENT BEPKO: There is a motion to amend the motion that is on the floor. Is there a second to that?

VICE PRESIDENT REPKO: The motion has been made and seconded. The principal motion has been stated twice. I don't think we have to restate that. Ed Harper's motion to amend would add to the main motion that we recommend to the University Faculty that they disapprove the proposed Statement of Student

Rights and Responsibilities. Then, what would follow would be the rest of your main motion. A motion to amend is made and seconded. Are you ready to vote on

that? All in favor of the motion to amend the main motion, say "Aye."

Opposed? [There were some opposed] The ayes have it. The motion is amended.

Now we must vote on the m~in motion which is modified in the way that was suggested by Ed Harper's motion. I hope the minutes are being carefully taken.

Are you ready to vote on the main motion? All in favor, say "Aye." Any opposed? The main motion carries. Now, you have a second motion?

I move that the Secretary of the IUPUI Faculty Council convey to

President Ryan our concern that the Statement of Student Rights and

Responsibilities (Revised Document) is in need of revision, and

request that the President delay further action on the document until

additional revisions can be made.

DEAN SCHALLER: I would like to ask a question. How does the proposed statement compare with the existing one? Is it worse or better?

DEAN SCHALLER: The reason for getting into this was two years ago. We are already two years into this. The present document that we are working with, and there are people in this room who will attest to this, is severely deficient. It constitutes enormous problems. At the rate we are going we are going to delay action on this. We are going to request another committee which will be appointed probably late next Fall. We will meet sometime, probably in January, and it will be two years before it's back here. So, what we are talking about here is at least four years that it will take the faculty of the University to do anything about a relatively serious problem. I am just wondering if there is some kind of interim thing that can be done to correct some of the worst of the problems that we struggle with and incorporate some of the best things in here as opposed to going another two years with this. What we are dealing with here is process rather than trying to reach some kind of goal to deal with a problem that is considered rather an immediate problem.

This is two years later.

VICE PRESIDENT BEPKO: The main problem is the fact that the Task Force that was appointed by President Ryan considers itself to be dissolved. It can't operate any more. I think that is what you ran into as a problem, didn't you?

VICE PRESIDENT BEPKO: If they decided they were finished and can't do anymore work, then ...

DEAN SCHALLER: I am not saying that that has to be done but I am just pointing out the situation we've gotten ourselves into here.

VICE PRESIDENT BEPKO: It is not the best way to handle it but I don't know how else to resolve the issue except to ask for a vote on the motion that has been made. We have one other item of business that we have to take up today. We

only have six minutes to do it in. Are you prepared to vote on this motion?

If so, all in favor say "Aye." Any opposed? The motion carries.